The “Responsible Dog Owners” Test

Are you a Responsible, Considerate Pet Owner? Really?

Are You a Responsible Dog Owner? TestConsiderate people are something not too easy to come by nowadays. Even more difficult is to find a considerate, responsible, honest dog-owner. Sure, they exist, but the irresponsible ones are – by far – the vast, absolute majority.

Certainly, even among those inconsiderate people there are many who think they are nice, law abiding citizens. Not in the eyes of decent, respectful, educated people. Let’s see.

What is Responsibility?

Webster Dictionary defines it as the quality or state of being responsible; as moral, legal, or mental accountability. Responsibility relating to pet ownership covers a wide range of topics and areas.

A person has a responsibility to him/herself to make an informed decision about adding a pet to the household. Different breeds of cats and dogs have different needs and personalities as well as maintenance requirements. Some birds need more handling and attention than others. That person is the sole one to find the right match if they take the decision to own an animal in their homes.

As a responsible pet owner, I am more than willing to comply with regulations. Even the ones that are not written.

A person has a responsibility to provide health care, food, shelter, training, exercise and most of all attention. All this takes time, commitment, and money. If one cannot provide basic needs for a pet then neither will be happy.

A person has a responsibility to the community for himself and his/her pet to be good neighbors and obey laws set in place for protection of animals, people and property.

The “Responsible Dog Owner Test” – A Checklist

First, a question: Would you choose to be the owner of the Fukushima Nuclear Power plant (that in Japan which is currently leaking huge amounts of radioactivity and is just about to kill people, if not have already)? Would you? Well, if you were responsible, certainly you would surround yourself of all the information and protection available. Most importantly, you would *prevent* that to happen.

The same applies to dogs. Dogs can be like a fire gun: a fully loaded weapon, unlocked, defective, at large, contaminated, and many times left unsupervised in the hands of kids, a little child, even babies.

So please read carefully below all the characteristics of a real Responsible Dog Owner and see how you relate to them. At the end you can get the results of how well, or not, you fared.

Let’s start:

You thoroughly educated yourself (and your family members), well before getting a dog, on potential prevention strategies including:

• educational programs on canine behavior, especially directed at children;
• laws for regulating dogs, specially dangerous or vicious ones;
• enhanced animal control programs;
• educational programs regarding responsible dog ownership and training.

You never got a dog as a gift or donated. You know there is no way for you to know the history of that animal, unless you start an investigation, something that obviously you won’t do.

You bought your dog from a certified seller, be it a pet shop or breeder, not complaining they cost more.

You bought your dog Not to be a yard decoration or a fashion statement but just because you really enjoy a pet.

You took your dog to be neutered at your veterinarian, even before bringing it to your home, paying the fees.

You took your dog to the vet to have a front paw declawing, paying the associated costs.

You had your dog to the veterinarian to be micro-chipped so it could be easily identified.

You applied for a city license for your dog(s), paying the full fee(s).

You renew the city license for your dog(s), paying the full fee(s), every year, without delay.

You successfully attended and completed the training in the control of dogs, even when not mandatory by the city.

You never are in denial about the bad behavior of your dog.

You always pay any fines you may receive because of the unruly behavior of your dog.

You never challenge the city in court after you received a fine.

You never got a criminal record as you clearly know that criminals love dogs, specially dangerous one.

You always get and renew an insurance policy due to your dog’s actions, at a minimal of US$1 million, since you love your dog and never know what your dog can do.

You keep your dog with an ID tag at all times, like in its collar, including when at home, inside the house.

You take your dog for full training (behavioral, barking…) with a professional dog trainer, even before taking the animal to your property.
You never took that dog to your home if that animal had not successfully completed and passed the training.

You take your dog to a veterinarian at least once a year, even when your pet seems to be perfectly normal.

You take your dog for a walk at least once a day, every day of the week, holidays and weekends included, be it raining, snowing or scorching hot.

You never say “my dog never barks” since you now it is not true, unless you had its vocal cords surgically removed.

You never say “my dog never bit anyone” when you now it is not true.

You never say “my dog never bit anyone *before*” because you now it is not true it could not happen in the future.

You never let your dog bark, never meaning never, day or night, momentarily or incessantly, inside or outside, never. Better yet(i), after you trained the dog not to bark, you buy it a anti barking collar to be used 24 hours a day. Even better (ii), you take your dog for a debark surgical procedure at your vet of choice, paying the full fees, certainly.

You never allow your dog to damage the property you share with your neighbor, like a fence or garden. If that happens, you promptly admit the problem and offer to immediately pay for the damage in full, accompanied by sincere apologies.

You always pick up after your pet, no exceptions. No bag? You carry it with your hands and dispose them off at your home, Not anywhere else.

You always thoroughly sanitize, with disinfectant, the place where your dog had dropped, even when in public places. Just picking up after your dog is NOT enough since you know there are numerous diseases in dog feces and that even kids have already died because of it.

You always let your dog to pee only in the gutter, when outside, never on the sidewalk, or other people’s garden or wall, or parks, for example.

You always give your dog a shower, at least once every other day, Not just a week or a month, since you don’t want it to smell bad and you be called an irresponsible pet owner.

You always give your dog a bath or make it use dog shoes before entering into your home since you don’t want to bring ‘muddy substances’ into your home.

You always take a shower (yourself, not your dog) and wear fully clean clothes before leaving your home since you know when you were in contact with that animal you got covered in dander and dog hair. Certainly, you don’t want to contaminate people who suffer allergies out there.

You always keep your dog away from your bed, sofa, kitchen… since you know they carry a number of diseases, including serious and deadly ones.

You always carry your dog in a crate when you have it in your car since you know dogs moving around can and do cause car accidents. Certainly you don’t want to pay more for car insurance.

You always have your dog on a leash when outside. That meaning a non-retractile leash with a maximum 1 meter long/3 feet long. Also, you are holding it And is attached to the animal.

You don’t take more than one dog when you walk your pet. You understand this is an invitation for disaster when several leashes are mingled together.

You always have your dog muzzled when outside, including in your backyard since you know it may run away. Always.

You always have your dog under your full control, specially when outside.

You never allow your dog to be handled by people who are physically or mentally unable to fully control your dog. That includes no kids, elderly.

You never allow your dog to charge at people or objects, be it the postman, your neighbor in their backyard, or a kid riding a bike in the sidewalk.

You always provide all necessary vaccines for your dog, and pay full price for them.

You never disguise your dog as a “Service Dog”. It is a crime in many places, if not most, by the way.

You never say that, in case your dog is small, that it is not a hazard or inconvenience to other people.

You never take your dog with you in the airplane cabin, even if your pet is in a bag or crate. You know your dog has to be in a crate And in the cargo area of the plane, nowhere else.

You never take your dog with you to public places, like restaurants, supermarkets, coffee shops, libraries, book stores, beaches…

You never take your dog with you to Hospitals!

You never take your dog with you in closed public places, like elevators or taxis.

You never take your dog with you to your workplace as you know it is a nuisance distraction and some people may be allergic, for example.

You never expect special treatment just because you have a dog.

You never expect people to like your dog or enjoy its presence just because you like yours.

You never hate people who do not like a dog, including yours.

You never expect people to do your obligations as a dog owner, fully knowing that you are totally responsible for your own actions and the ones caused by your dog.

You never compare dogs to people, much less proclaim that dogs are better then people, or even worse, kids.

You never make excuses for your mistakes or the problems caused by your dog.

You refuse to get any ‘Bull’ type dog. Shun everyone who does. Let them know it’s not acceptable, and that they are clearly an outcast among your friends and neighbors.

You separate any children from dogs, not just young kids or babies.

You never allow your dog to be in close proximity of little kids, much less babies.

You never expect to have your dog to function as a security system as you know it is too easy to “incapacitate” a dog, and that even the most stupid of thieves knows that very well.

You never leave your dog alone in your property when you go to work or are outside for any reason. You find or hire someone to take care of it, and pay the fees.

You never leave your dog alone in your property when you travel, not even for a day in the mountains. You take it to a dog hotel, and pay the fees.

You never leave your dog alone in your car when you go for shopping in the supermarket. You leave it at home, like above.

You always donate to charity (regarding humans, not animals) at least the same amount of all the money you spend with your dogs.

You never allow your dog to sniff on others people crotch or butt, even when your animal is with you holding it on a leash and muzzled.

You never allow your dog to charge on people, even when your animal is under your full control.

You never allow your dog to jump on people, even when your animal is with you holding it on a leash. You know it’s rude And dangerous.

You never call the police because your neighbor knocked multiples times on your door to complain that your dog had for repeated times crapped in his garden.

You never call the police to complain that your neighbor woke you up late at night since his family could not sleep due to your dogs barking.

You never tie your dog at the front door of a business, any business, inconveniencing passers by, patrons and workers alike.

You never take your dog with you in the bus or subway or train, unless it is in a crate, and a clean one certainly.

You never say you love dogs but hate kids. You know you were a kid some day in the past.

You always and only take your dog to a ‘dog park’, never to a people-friendly park since you know decent people do not want to be stepping in or around poop or be confronted by a barking, snarling, off leash (or even leashed) weapon. They just want a nice human time.

► You never take your dog into parks that have children’s playgrounds.

You never allow your dog to be in your kitchen, or close to any food, much less when you or your family are enjoying a meal.

You never take your pet with you when you visit your relatives, friends, or coworkers who do not not have dogs.

You always restrain your dog, usually in a crate, when you receive your relatives, friends, or workmates for a visit.

You never have more than one 1 dog, since they are really cumbersome and there is no need for that.

You never collect street, lose dogs and bring those animals to your property also because you know the zoning area does not allow kennels.

You never allow your pet to tear open garbage, dig up gardens, kill other pets and livestock, drool over whatever gets in their way.

You never run out and get a dog on impulse because you saw one on a TV show that was acting so “smart and friendly” since you know those dogs have been professionally trained for years by people who know what they are doing.

You clearly know that if your dog happens, by accident of course, to be running lose then you are fully responsible for whatever happens. Really anything.

You never take your dog for a walk just because it wants to defecate and urinate outside on public or other peoples spaces. You let your animal to make its necessities on Your property only. And clean it accordingly right away.

You never get off on making other people’s lives miserable by allowing your dog to do whatever that and you want, like barking or defecating, anytime, anywhere.

You never allow your dog to do whatever it wants, even in an off-leash area. You know you are responsible for your animal at all times.

You never allow, nor think it’s ‘cute’, your dog to do get into fights even in a dog park.

You never allow our dog to run after the neighbors cats and kids, snarling or killing.

You never allow your dog to annoy other people and say “he’s just playing”, “she’s not going to hurt you”, “he’s just trying to say hi”…

You never make excuses, much less ridiculous ones, for the bad behavior of your dog, and maybe yours too, like “so, if I have to pick up after my dog in the park, so you should clean up free birds poop, too.” 

You always, as a responsible dog owner, take responsibility for educating other dog owners so you are not labeled just like they are.

You never chastise or criticize people for not having a dog.

You never call your animal things like ‘Angel’ and ‘Popsie’, or “He or She”, or say “mommy is here”…

You never say that you are the mother of a dog because you know the mother of a dog is – literally – a bitch.

You never, ever, hate people who hate or just do not like dogs, including your dog.

You always wash AND sanitize your dog’s butt after it craps since you do not want diseases to spread everywhere.

You never sleep with your dog in your bed or couch, nor let any member of your family to do so.

You never say you can’t travel or take a vacation ‘because of my dog’.

You never stay in hotels that do Not allow dogs, specially by hiding the animal in your baggage just because you consider it as ‘people’, a “member of your family”.

You never treat dogs as Humans but instead let them be how Nature Intended it to be.

You never exceed the city’s limit on the number of dogs someone can have in a property. In some some building it is zero dogs.

You never move to a neighborhood where residents have no dogs a all, much less to make you feel special.

You never move to a building or community that do not allow dogs.

You never take your dog along a walk with a friend who do not have dogs.

You always move to the side of a sidewalk or trail when someone is passing by, during your walk with your animal.

You never “play the victim” saying the likes of “why do you people hate me” when they say they don’t like dogs.

You never threaten to GUN DOWN or INJURE or KILL or people just because they said something bad, usually true, about your animal.

You never tell people who complain about your dog that they are crazy and their place is in a psychiatric hospital.

You never go to anti-dogs/dog-haters/pet ownership awareness websites to try to persuade non dog owners to become dog owners.

You never go to anti-dogs/dog-haters websites to post that you are a Responsible Dog Owner. A RDO shows it by their actions, not fake words.

You always place your dog’s mess in a bag it And bin it – in any public litter bin, never throwing it around or leaving it behind. If there are no litter bins nearby, you take it home and dump it in your toilet. No bin? No bag? No excuse.

You ALWAYS carry a bag(s) when you walk your dog.
You never do something unethical or criminal with your dog just because no one is looking or there are no police officers around.

You never give a dog (either your own or any other) as a gift or donation to anyone. Being responsible, you don’t want to give a lot of trouble to someone else. Well, perhaps to an enemy but that wouldn’t make you responsible as that is what we are talking about.

You never abandon your dog when you don’t want it anymore, after all the headaches it caused you and your family. You take the animal to your vet and have it euthanized, paying the fees in full.

You do not let your dog use your bathtubs for a shower. Ever.

You do not let your dog use your dishes/kitchen utensils. It’s highly insanitary.

You do not try to make people feel inferior just because they do not have a dog.

You do not take your dawg to cemeteries. It’s extremely disrespectful.

You always report to authorities (and never hide) information on:

• nuisance barking dogs
• owners that do not pick after their dogs
• free roaming dogs (not just yours)
• near attacks (including the ones from your dogs)
• dog-related injuries (including the ones caused by your dogs)
• mistreatment of animals, like left unsupervised with no food or water, or in the cold or scorching heat.

You always apologize, in a sincere way, when your dog happens to create some trouble with people. You never run away pretending nothing happened.

You immediately have your dog put down, sacrificed, euthanized as soon as you have had it turn on you, or anybody else.
No second thoughts. No delays. No excuses.

Ah, the most important of all ► You never say/scream/yell “I DO NOT HAVE TO RESPECT ANY OF THAT $HIT! ME AND MY DAWGS IS SPECIAL!!!!

That’s all!

I didn’t make up any of the _bad_ attitudes above. You may do a web search for any and all of it and find examples of the disrespect that is happening right now, by the minute.

Results for the “Responsible Dog Owners Test”

So, how did you fare? There are just a few possibilities:

1 – You answered Yes to ALL statements above


You are really a Responsible Dog Owner. You should be proud because you are an exception. A really rare kind of person. We just hoped there were more like you. The world would be a much better place, and this web site would have no reason to exist. Please continue to be the way you are and do not succumb to your inferior colleagues. Once more, I – and probably every non-dog owner out there – admire you as a Responsible Dog Owner!

2 – You answered Yes to MOST statements above

OK! But you can do better.

You may be a reasonable pet owner at this time but there is a lot to work on, and you must be willing to resolving them as soon as possible, like… yesterday.

3 – You answered Yes to SOME statements above

BAD! Really bad!

I’m sorry for you, your animal (since you treat it as an animal at best, not a pet), and specially for the people that live close to you. That is undoubtedly not a nice place to be around.

4 – You answered Yes to NONE of the statements above

HORRIBLE! Impossible to be worse!

You are a true psychopath, the scum of society, a kind of people no one wants to live around, no one stands you (maybe the worst of criminals). You probably live in a crime ridden area or one just coming to be one. Please be a favor to the world and seek immediate psychiatric help, urgently. Oh, you don’t have money? Your pit-bulls can easily solve that for you.

If you aren’t prepared to do all the above – DON’T OWN A DOG!

I am absolutely sure, 200% certain that certain individuals will come here shouting, yelling, screaming: “It is impossible to do all that!!!!“. Well, the owners of the Fukushima Nuclear Power Plant thought the same.

You be certain that I’m also sure that I forgot to mention some things in the list.

Responsible owners keep their dogs quiet,
like invisible ones

Final Thoughts

Is that easy being a Responsible Dog Owner? No, it is not. That is why people should not be allowed to own a pet without being fully aware of the consequences. A pet is not just that little cute animal with big eyes you got with just a few days of life. It will grow and become a burden for most, or too big for many places, like apartments. Taking care of a pet will take an enormous amount of your time and your money. Sometimes it will even take lives.

Note that we are NOT telling people that they should Not have a dog. We just ask that they be *RESPONSIBLE*. That’s all.

Leave Your Comments Below

Bad dog owners and their out of control dogs make us, decent, law abiding, educated people, angry, stressed, upset, and/or depressed. Our patience and tolerance have been compromised with ongoing dog harassment. Your opinions here are welcome, but please be respectful of each other as we are all victims who share the same torment. We all need to express ourselves and verbally purge our personal dog war experiences in a safe environment.

Self-monitoring and maturity is requested. Funnel all that negative energy into some positive action! Get involved!

Complaints will be taken and abusers who bite will be subject to muzzling and removal.

Let’s make ours a better place to live. We all deserve it.

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50 Responses to The “Responsible Dog Owners” Test

  1. S says:

    A lot of dog owners sincerely believe that they are good owners, and that they are responsible and respectful, because their dogs are “friendly.” Their dogs don’t hurt anyone, so great… right?

    I remember a time when I was at a state park — not a dog park — where dogs were supposed to be leashed. I was walking along, minding my own business, when suddenly a “friendly” dog came bounding up to me, jumped up and put its muddy paws on my clean shirt and slobbered on me. The owners were some distance behind, holding the leash (not attached to the dog) and smiling at how cute it was that the dog was so nice. Wasn’t it sweet?

    I had to drive several hours home before I could change out of my filthy clothes and wash the slobber off. I was disgusted and felt violated.

    The point is that a lot of owners just don’t understand that not everyone wants to have dogs all over them. If you are truly respectful, you will understand and accept this, and not let your dog molest anyone unless you are sure that person welcomes it.

    Bad owners genuinely think their dogs are adorable to EVERYONE and that they are doing other people a favor by sharing their dog’s affection. Think again. Making assumptions about what other people enjoy is extremely disrespectful.

  2. Eilidh Somerville says:

    What utter nonsense! Have a good long look at your own species first. I could go through each of those and tell you how ridiculous each one of them is. I’ll elaborate on a few of them though. Humans cause far more noise pollution: FACT! Human kids are more dangerous and get away with far more than dogs: FACT. Restraining a dog with a muzzle and never letting them off lead is more dangerous: FACT! Declawing and debarking is cruel and inhumane: FACT! Humans are far more dangerous than dogs: FACT!

    • MrMAD says:

      Another characteristic of dog owners that I found is that they are truly sadomasochists. They looooove to be beaten to the ground.

      Here comes you, Eilidh Somerville. Welcome.

      Eilidh Somerville brings her “facts”, with no factual backup, or any backup for the matter. Just opinions. Off site opinions as usual coming from a dog lover.

      So, let’s destroy your “facts”, one by one:

      Humans cause far more noise pollution: FACT!
      We in this blog are talking about problems created by Dogs, not Humans’. The pollution you mention is created even by You, unnecessarily we must say, specially by having a dog, not by the dog itself. You too create extra pollution by driving to the supermarket to buy food for your dog. Talking on your cellphone about your dog. You pollute the internet (electric power, bytes bandwidth…) writing opinions fueled by emotion only. All this pollution created by you just on the behalf of Your dog. I never get tired to say but Humans supersede Animals, dogs included, because they are animals, Not people. The pollution created by Humans are in great part absolutely necessary for our living on this planet. What is not, must be dealt by the respective authorities, which my tax money helps handsomely to pay for. If humans didn’t pollute, for that extent, we may not even exist at all, and by the way neither your dogs since there would no human to mutate them for millenniums and, worst, your dogs would have no one to feed them! The pollution created by dogs is absolutely superfluous and brings No benefit for humanity, sure, with some extremely rare exceptions, less than a grain of sand on the beach. So, the final take is: it’s not because humans “pollute” that we should accept the needless, unwanted, overabundant pollutant dog.
      So, you, and your pseudo fact, FAILED!

      – Human kids are more dangerous and get away with far more than dogs: FACT.
      But no way, not even in hell! Kids don’t hurt other humans to send 800,000 people to hospital every year, nor they bite 5,000,000 people a year, and that just in the USA. I hope that’s enough.
      So, you, and your pseudo fact, FAILED!

      – Restraining a dog with a muzzle and never letting them off lead is more dangerous: FACT!
      For a dog to be outside its confined area it Must, Must, Must use a muzzle to protect the lives of Humans. Again, Humans supersede dogs at all times. If you do not want your animal to use a muzzle, ok, just don’t bring it in to public areas or perhaps you could create a zoo where they would live at large but still in large cages just like hyenas, wolves and coyotes do. Then, and only then, the danger is greatly minimized.
      So, you, and your pseudo fact, FAILED!

      – Declawing and debarking is cruel and inhumane: FACT!
      Again, Humans supersede dogs at all times. Human safety And well being are paramount. However, you could keep your dogs with their intact claws and incessant barking by taking them to the dog zoo I mentioned above. We would all be happy. Please, just notice that zoos are not allowed in urban areas, only in specific, large areas where their environment would not cause harm to the vicinity with their smell and noise, for example.
      So, you, and your pseudo fact, FAILED!

      – Humans are far more dangerous than dogs: FACT!
      Please refer to above where I talk about kids. Without humans there are no dogs. It’s quite the same.
      So, you, and ALL your pseudo facts, FAILED! MISERABLY!

      • Debra says:

        Thank you MrMAD, you are 100% correct! I wish all potential and already dog owners would do the right thing and be responsible pet owners. Why do we have to put up with the ignorant people that think we all love animals and want them in our faces and jumping on us. We DON’T, if we did we would have an animal. Kudos to the responsible dog owners, and shame on the irresponsible ones!

    • S says:

      “Humans cause far more noise pollution.”

      Um, no. You’re just plain wrong. Where I live, I am disturbed and awakened by dogs FAR more than by humans.

      “Human kids are more dangerous and get away with far more than dogs.”

      What a bizarre and unsupported statement! When was the last time you heard about a kid getting away with mauling a baby?

      “Restraining a dog with a muzzle and never letting them off lead is more dangerous.”

      Another bizarre and unsupported statement. I’d rather take my chances with an attempted bite from a muzzled, leashed dog than an unmuzzled, free-roaming one, thanks.

      “Declawing and debarking is cruel and inhumane.”

      Something tells me you don’t say the same about spaying and neutering, which are no better. Why do you pick and choose which surgeries to rail against and which to accept? It’s not like the dog doesn’t get anesthetic! And dogs don’t need to bark or claw any more than they need to procreate.

      “Humans are far more dangerous than dogs.”

      Well, I’ve been harmed far more by dogs than by humans, and I’d rather take my chances with a loose human than a loose dog… even if that human is as stupid as you are.

      And that’s REALLY stupid.

      Have a nice day!

  3. S. D. Martin says:

    Quite a comprehensive list there; and in an ideal world, people who can’t meet this criteria would not get a dog. I don’t know ANYONE who could say “yes” to ALL of these points; I consider myself lucky if someone does even ONE of the following:

    1. Keeps their dog on the sidewalk and out of my front garden
    2. Keeps it on a REAL leash, not one of those 20-foot reel leashes
    3. Trains it to NOT jump up on me
    4. Picks up the mess it leaves on the sidewalk (forget the bleach/sanitizer, isn’t going to happen)
    5. Doesn’t let it bark for no reason
    6. Shuts it up quickly if it’s barking for a reason
    7. Doesn’t take it with them everywhere they go
    8. Doesn’t bring it into food establishments
    9. Doesn’t use the “it’s a service dog” excuse
    10. Doesn’t assume that everyone loves dogs!

    I’ve only known ONE dog owner who does all 10 things on my list. If the average ODOr does more than one, I consider myself REALLY lucky!

    • MrMAD says:

      I’d be quite happy if only those ten points could be observed by dog owners. However, I suppose I won’t.

      From my side, I haven’t met even one single person that meets your full ten point criteria.

  4. Liz says:

    Add another dog owner to the list of those who meet the ten criteria. Some of the points in the main post seem a bit far out (I’m thinking of the extreme sanitation ones and the surgeries. Other than neitering of course) but you betcha I do those ten listed a couple above. I’ve even shamed other dog owners for not picking up poop. And I truly wish pitbulls would vanish from the earth

    • MrMAD says:

      That’s nice you are a responsible dog owner, Liz. Not a 100% one but that is quite admirable, specially considering the absurd level of disrespect we have today.

      The full list may be ‘edgy’ but it’s the way any person truly worried about their family, neighborhood and the environment would behave. If a person decides to take an action (e.g. getting a dog), that person must assume all responsibilities that come with that.

      See this: If I bought a nuclear plant, were quite responsible, though not fully, but leaving just a bit of ‘harmless’ radiation to flow to nearby parks, towns, residences, and people, I suppose residents in the area would not feel quite comfortable, even with me saying: “hey, this little radiation is just insignificant, it won’t bother anybody”. Don’t you agree?

  5. S says:

    “You always wash AND sanitize your dog’s butt after it craps since you do not want diseases to spread everywhere.”

    Honestly, I’ve never known ANYONE to do this, and I’d be very surprised if ANYONE did.

    Which is not to say that they shouldn’t! When I go visit someone who owns a dog, and I see the dog jump up on the couch and sit down with its anus directly on the cushion… I’m completely disgusted and can’t wait to change clothes when I go home.

    Dog feces really do carry a lot of pathogens, and some are quite dangerous. Do you really want that all over your home?

    • D says:

      I read an article claiming dogs can pass a virus on to humans that can lead to breast cancer. Mice Mammary Tumor Virus. The dogs sniff the ground where mice and other rodents leave their trail of contaminated feces, and the dog then inhales it and brings it into the home and passes it on to the humans.

      • MrMAD says:

        Thanks for this importante info.

        I’m just finalising an article on this matter and will include it too. In case you still have the link, please let us know. Appreciated.

  6. Chewbaca the Dog says:

    my test awnsers

    1: througly educated yourself and family members about dogs- OK

    2:never get a dog as a gift and/or donated- dog-gifts are fairly acceptable, just dont throw a puppy in a box and give it to a child, then its a problem.

    3: you brought your dog from a shelter- Ok

    4: you brought your dog as an enjoyable pet- OK

    5: take your dog to a vetenarian yearly: OK

    6: take your dog to be declawed- weekly-yearly is acceptable.

    7: take your dog to be microchiped- OK

    8: give your dog a city license- OK

    9: Renew license yearly: OK

    10: train your dog- OK

    11: NO denial for dog behavior- OK

    12: Pay (No Denial) for Dog Behavior- OK

    13: Never Challenge Court For Dog Behavior- OK

    14:No Criminal Record=Yes Dogs- Minor Criminal Record is OK

    15: Always renew insurance for Dog Behavior- OK

    16:Keep Dog With ID- OK

    17: Fully Train Dog- Pepole who do that are called “OVER PROTECTIVE DOG OWNERS”, thats what i heard.

    18: take dog to Vetenarian Yearly- OK
    19: Take Dog For Walks Daily- OK

    20:never say that your dog doesnt bark- havent you heard of the Basenji, the barkless dog? google it.

    21:Never say that your dog never bit anyone- You are correct, sir, nibbling is biting to!

    22: Never say My dog never bit anyone Before- same as 21.

    23: never let your dog bark- listen to these paragraphs from the humane society of the US: “Some dogs bark because of age-related dementia or deafness. Be patient with your dog. Keep his environment simple and orderly; don’t make frequent changes. Talk to your vet about medications that may help the dementia. Teach your deaf dog the “quiet” command using hand signals or a flash of light or a vibrating collar (NOT a shock collar) as the cue instead of saying the word “quiet.” ” and this one to: “Common causes of barking:
    Attention/Demand: Your dog may want to eat, go outside, or your undivided attention.
    Boredom/Frustration: Your dog may have been left outside day and night, or confined to one room for a long period of time.
    Fear: Your dog may be afraid of objects, people, places, other animals, or loud noises such as thunder and fireworks.
    Tip: Your dog’s posture can tell you if he’s barking out of fear. Typically his ears are back, and his tail is held low.
    Territoriality/Protectiveness: Your dog is barking in the presence of “intruders,” which may include people and other dogs in adjacent yards.
    Tip: If your dog is being territorial, his posture appears threatening with his tail held high and his ears up and forward.
    Playfulness/Excitement: Your dog may be overly playful and excited when greeting people.
    Health Issues: Your dog may have Canine Cognitive Dysfunction or deafness, causing him to bark because he’s unable to hear himself bark.” and again, THE BASENJI!

    24: never allow dog to do damage to other pepole’s property- OK

    25: Pick up after pet- OK

    26: SANITISE EVERYTHING- germaphobia/fear of germs comes to this topic

    27: Only let dog pee outside and in other very easy to sanitize place: same as 26.

    28: give dogs showers very often- same as 26 & 27

    29: Give dogs a bath before letting them – same as 26, 27, and 28 ( boy, your as afraid of germs as much as a child is afraid of the dark. )

    30: shower yourself and sanitize your clothes after playing with dog- same as 26, 27, 28, and 29. ( WHOA. Get over it dude!)

    31: keep dog away from All furniture: same as 26, 27, 28, 29, and 30.

    32 : keep dog in the back of the airplane in a crate- same as 17, but thats the rules, right?

    33: ALWAYS have your dog on a leash outside: same as 17 and 32.

    34: dont take more than one dog in a walk at a time: OK.

    35:muzzle your dog- i dont like muzzles, i just train dogs to not bite.

    36: keep dog under control: OK

    37: never let your dog to be handled by kids or elderly- its not like dogs have poision skin that poision pepole on contact, jeez.

    38: never let a dog charge at an object- toy breeds dont do much damage when they charge…

    39: provide vaccines for dog: OK

    40: never disguise dog as service dog- OK

    41: if your dog is small, dont say it is not a hazard to young pepole- same as 38.

    42: never take dog to an airplane cabin- OK

    43: never take dog to public places – dogs are not evil predators planning to destroy everything, there just dogs.

    44: never take dogs to hosbitals- OK

    45: never take dog to closed public places- same as 43

    46: never take dog to work: OK

    47: never expet special treatment- OK

    48: never expect dog to enjoy you: mans best freind?

    49: never hate pepole who hate dogs: like you?

    50: never expect pepole to worship you as a dog owner- OK

    51: never compare dogs to pepole- same as 48.

    52:never make exuses fot your mistakes as a dog owner: OK

    53: NO BULL TYPE DOGS- i know two pepole who own bull type dogs. both of them were sweet and so were their bull type dogs.

    54: seperate childeren with dogs: same as 37, 43, and 48.

    55: never allow dogs near children: same as 54.

    56: never expect dog to function with security- … OK?
    57: never leave dog alone- same as 17.

    to be continued, just want to see my score from there! :3

    • MrMAD says:

      You were going so well…
      until when you started making excuses.

      Excuses about the excuses.

      Providing exceptions, even if they were true, is still an excuse since you are going against the norm, against what statistics clearly show.

      Dog owners are masters in this marginal art of creating excuses for their pets so, when they do this, they change of category, going from the Responsible to the Irresponsible one.

      But at least you are ‘almost’ there. A good start anyway since you are at least trying, when your colleagues are mostly not.

      You have my respect, and from most people here, if you keep trying to improve yourself.

    • S says:

      Trying to shame people for “germophobia” because they recognize how unclean dogs are is foolish of you.

      Are you aware that a child went BLIND in one eye after contact with dog filth? Google it.

      Are you aware that dog urine, if not rinsed and diluted, can kill vegetation? Again, Google it.

      Are you aware that dogs can cause breast cancer with their uncleanness? Again, Google it.

      Quit denigrating others for wanting to err on the side of caution instead of rolling in filth with your dog.

      • MrMAD says:

        “Are you aware that dogs can cause breast cancer with their uncleanness? Again, Google it.”

        I didn’t know that either. Binging it right now, new article soon. – Always Learning Something Interestingly New!

        Thanks a lot, S!

        • S says:

          I didn’t know about that either until recently. I first learned about it here:

          But a quick internet search will reveal information about it. Apparently there really is a statistical correlation. Good reason for women, at least, to not own dogs. (In addition to many other good reasons!)

  7. Mr MAD says:



    Shame on you for encouraging the use of breeders, most of which are just abusive puppy mills, while discouraging the adoption of rescued pets. You don’t have to know the history of the dog, just what the shelter volunteers can tell you about the results of their behavior evaluation. There are plenty of responsible, no kill shelters that will properly evaluate a dog to make sure it is adoptable. Some will even successfully rehabilitate ones that are not. And breed has nothing to do with it. A breed becoming popular bites more people because there are more dogs of that breed (because it is popular.) A well trained bull dog or pit bull that is exercised every day and not abused is no more dangerous than a dog of any other breed. Do some research.

    • S says:

      What an irresponsible person! A dog that has mauled someone CANNOT be rehabilitated. A dog dumped at a shelter due to its aggression is not a good candidate for a family pet.

      There is nothing, repeat nothing, wrong with choosing a breed that is suitable to your family’s preferences from a reputable breeder (which are easy to distinguish from puppy mills) who selects and breeds dogs of good temperament and health.

      Nobody should feel obligated to take someone else’s rejects instead of the kind of pet they actually want, just because other people are so irresponsible that they breed too many undesirable dogs and then throw them away. Nobody else should have to clean up that mess — only the people who made the mess in the first place.

  8. Anion says:

    I actually love dogs–normal dogs, not bred-to-kill pit bulls–but agree with many of the points above. Especially the one about breeders. I will (sadly) never adopt a dog from a shelter again.

    The commenter above says the people at the shelter will be able to talk about breed and temperament. Sure they will, but it’s likely that talk will be lies. Shelters are full to overflowing with pits and pit mixes, often mislabeled in an attempt to foist them off on unsuspecting innocent families. And many, many pits have passed those silly tests and then gone on to savage and kill people and other pets–and then pass the tests again. Pits are not like other dogs.

    But the shelters try to pretend they are. I have children and I live in a neighborhood with other people, and I refuse to be tricked into taking home a canine IED by some pitbull activist–and I refuse to give money to an organization that engages in such deception.

    I’ll go to a reputable breeder and spent the extra cash, because at least then I’ll know exactly what I’m getting, and it won’t be a dog that “just snaps” because I fell asleep or laughed or tripped or picked up a piece of paper or wore my hair in a ponytail.

    You don’t want people going to breeders? Quit turning shelters into ‘pit bull deception and propaganda agencies,’ and we’ll return to them. Until then, it’s purebred only for this girl, I’m afraid.

    • Puma says:

      Unfortunately, if it is entirely purebred, that means that it is also inbred. It has probably been bred with it’s own parents. That gives it a higher chance of being extra stupid, more stupid than usual.

      We all know what happens when an inbred ANYTHING is involved….

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  10. PeaceSeeker says:

    Sorry if these are already included but here are a few items:

    You do not let your dog use your bathtubs for a shower. Ever.

    You do not let your dog use your dishes/kitchen utensils. It’s highly insanitary.

    You do not try to make people feel inferior just because they do not have a dog.

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  12. BK says:

    Wow, that is quite an extensive list. Rather than go through every item, I’ll just give a summary as it pertains to our dog:

    We’ve had him for 7 years now. He’s not microchipped, but he has been neutered. He’s housebroken and crate trained, and he knows the commands that we’ve taught him.

    We don’t let him run off leash just because. If we walk him and we run across someone who appears to be apprehensive, we make sure we keep his leash tight so that he doesn’t run up to them. If someone wants to pet him, we make him sit beforehand. We don’t allow him to jump on other people, or us for that matter. Also, we do pick up after him.

    He is not allowed on our furniture. We don’t believe in pets and people sharing furniture, nor are we fond of dog hair all over our clothes.

    We don’t try to take him everywhere we go. We are perfectly fine with the fact that some places simply don’t allow dogs. Even if they did, taking him would be more trouble than it’s worth, mainly because of his size.

    When we have visitors at our house, he goes in his crate. We have friends and family members who are not dog people, and we are not about to ruin those relationships over a dog.

    We continue to live our lives as normal. Having a dog doesn’t keep us from going out with friends, going to movies, going on vacation, or anything like that. I simply don’t understand people who allow their dog to control their lives.

    Lastly, we have no issue whatsoever with the fact that some people don’t like dogs. To us, it’s perfectly normal and acceptable for someone to feel this way. For those that do, we do not try to force our dog onto them.

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  14. Mom in Eugene says:

    I know of a few owners that fit this list. I live a few doors down (apartments) but never knew that had dogs for years! I finally saw them walking them, but never heard nor saw them otherwise. Not a bark!
    They didn’t muzzle, but they were safe breeds, and weren’t around anyone.
    If all owners were like them I would love dogs!

    Usually they are barking, shitting, machines, and in the case of bully breeds, a real dangerous problem. But their owners are WORSE!

    • MrMAD says:

      Yes, responsible dog owners exist, but they are extremely rare. And the one you mention is NOT among them. Sure, he is extremely more responsible than all the others.

      Why I say that? I also had such a neighbor; dog almost never barked and so on. But the owner used to let the dog to roam unleashed to do its business – defecate – on the street (not on other people’s properties), always under his supervision. A ‘safe’ and small breed but also unmuzzled that many times tried to approach me to lick my legs, something I admit the owner always prevented. However, many little kids were afraid of that ‘cute’ doggy.

      Those two are Not a Responsible dog owner in my dictionary. “Less worse”, yes. Responsible, no.

      Welcome back, Mom in Eugene.

  15. DeletedName says:

    Such an interesting web page. Never knew there were “uncloseted” dog haters. I feel both grateful and reviled, since I myself own a quiet little dog. She’s the love of my life, but had the skin and fur ripped off her tail by my neighbor’s dogs when they tried to pull her through our fence by her tail, while my sister was only 20 feet away and didn’t realize what was happening.

    I hate dogs too. I lived in enough apartments where pets were allowed (I had a cat) and had to listen through the wall to dogs barking all night while their owners were out partying. Or smell dog hair that was literally woven into the carpeting, and which I crawled around on my hands and knees trying to remove with duck tape. And of course, the poop in the yard, on the sidewalk, etc.

    I will do the best I can to give my little girl the happiest life I can for as long as she lives (she recovered from the attack after $4800 of vet bills). But I will never have another dog. My heart has been torn with grief for what she’s been through, and there are too many dogs. They eat tons of animals, and that is horrendous for our environment. There are humans starving, and we’re feeding animals to dogs. And yes, the fact that children are maimed and people are killed by vicious dogs means that dogs are not being properly regulated. The fact that dogs have made my own life a living hell is testament enough as far as I’m concerned. Damn right it’s selfish and I don’t really care. So sick of irresponsible dog owners. I guess I don’t hate dogs. In the abstract I love them, but I hate the people who make me hate the dogs.

    • S says:

      I am really sorry that that happened to your dog. I hope the neighbor’s dogs were put down, although I doubt they were.

      Although I consider myself a dog hater in general, I don’t hate all dogs. I’ve known some dogs that I liked, although I will never want to have one again, and would prefer not to be around dogs.

      What I hate most is the dog culture, where barking is tolerated, poop in public places is not picked up, attacks are routine and shrugged off, and you’re not allowed to say a negative word about dogs under any circumstances. Dogs are literally worshiped in western society, considered “angels with fur,” and shown in Facebook memes as the occupants of heaven and its throne. I’m not even exaggerating. And that’s the part that irritates the hell out of me.

      I just want to go about my life not being bothered by people’s dogs, and not being told I’m evil if I don’t want dogs around me. I am myself a survivor of an unprovoked dog attack, but people don’t understand how that makes me not fawn over their dogs. Idiots.

      • Becoming AntiDog says:

        Your third paragraph hits the nail on the head.

        Pet dogs are the sacred cow of the United States, for no reason other than that ODOr cliques scream so loudly. I am sooooo ready to fight back against this type of bullying and hope the anti-ODOr population is quickly growing. Dog crazies have taken things too far.

  16. Skye says:

    While I agree with most of your list of what you personally think makes up a responsible dog owner, there are some points I strongly disagree with to the point of finding them absolutely preposterous. I will exclude the germophobe ones. Please note that this is not me shaming germophobes, just me believing that, that level of “cleanliness” is unhealthy.

    No responsible dog owner would ever get a dog from a pet shop because pet shops get their dogs from puppy mills.
    No responsible dog owner would ever EVER declaw(assuming you mean all claws, not the dewclaw in which case, it depends) or debark their dogs as both practices are inhumane and are detrimental to the dog. No responsible dog owner would allow their dog to get to the stage where their dog would have to either be debarked or euthanized. Debarking does nothing about the cause of excessive barking. In an earlier comment someone brought up the same point and it was countered with something like ” you can’t pick and choose what procedures you find cruel” in regard to desexing pets. There is a simple answer to this. We do not pick and choose. Desexing is necessary for population control for a world that already has a pet overpopulation problem. There is absolutely NO reason to get a dog declawed or debarked (legitimate medical concerns excluded). No responsible dog owner would get their dogs ears cropped UNLESS the dog is intended for ratting, or get their dog’s tail docked UNLESS the dog is intended for hunting OR is an excessive wagger. Both of these procedures in these instances prevents future pain due to the rat biting their ears/tail or the tail being split due to the underbrush or broken and/or split due to excessive and hard wagging. No responsible dog owner would ever do something that is not in any way beneficial to their dog for no reason other than human preference/superficial reasons.
    Not taking the dog home until it had been fully trained by a professional dog trainer. This is one of the dumbest and most excessive things on the list. No responsible dog owner would leave their dog untrained, but this is excessive. Training is a learning process and takes months if not years, especially when it comes to breaking bad habits.
    There is a slight problem with the exercise point. Almost any weather. Some dogs are prone to overheating, therefore no responsible dog owner of any breed that is prone to overheating would ever exercise their dog on a scorching hot day. Unless there is a place they can take their dog for a swim, but they certainly would NOT take it for a walk.
    Muzzles. Muzzles should only ever be used on a dog that may bite (note that this does not mean, wait until the dog bites before using a muzzle, rather recognise that it is close to biting). Responsible owners can recognise signs in their dogs that may lead to biting and will do their best to ensure that their dog is never put into such an environment but always muzzle their dog when it is put in an unstable environment such as public places
    I hate people who actively hate dogs. If they simply dislike dogs and would rather not be near them, fine, I’m not bothered, but if someone hates dogs to the point of harming them then I hate them.
    The comparison between humans and dogs does not have any relevance whatsoever to responsible dog ownership. Dogs are better than humans, both in personality and for company, at least in my opinion, no so in yours. But that is a personal preference and has no relevance to responsible dog ownership. Unless you mean compare as in treat your dog like a human which is irresponsible.
    And then of course you have to go and show your true colours as the equivalent to dog racist. “Bull type” dogs are no better or worse than any other dog breed. “Bull type” refers to nothing more than physical appearance. Owning a “Bully type” dog does not make you irresponsible. It just makes the people around you judgemental and stupid.
    Having someone keep an eye on your dog all day so that it is never unsupervised by a human is exremely excessive. Although I agree that no dog should be left outside unsupervised unless you have an absolutely full proof fence that is checked for faults regularly.
    Donating the same amount of money spent on dogs to charity again, has absolutely nothing to do with pet ownership. Really, it’s neither here nor there and the two are not even remotely related.
    Saying you love dogs but hate kids. Again, has nothing to with responsibility. It also has nothing to do with having once been a kid yourself. Considering most kids I meet this days are evil little shits, it can also be justified. It’s not so much that you hate kids in and of themselves, just that you hate the attitude of most kids that you meet. This is nothing more, and nothing less than personal preference and has no relation or effect on responsible dog ownership.
    Never having more than one dog. Again, this is personal preference. No one is telling you to own several dogs, it has nothing to do with you, and it has nothing to do with responsibility. It is a personal preference.
    Never calling your dog a pet name like angel, popsie, or a freaking gender pronoun like he or she. This has nothing to do with responsibility. Many people use pet names for their pets as a way to refer to their dog without alerting them by the use of their name, although referring to yourself as “mommy” is a bit weird and kinda creepy, unless you treat the dog like a human child instead of a dog, then this in and of itself is not irresponsible. As for referring to your dog as he or she; you do realise dogs are not sexless, despite being desexed. You refer to them as he or she when speaking about them to other people and it is known that they are the subject of the sentence, especially when they are present, or they are just going to keep hearing their name and thinking you want something from them.

    Yep, that’s about it. 13 points that are either stupid, stupidly excessive or has absolutely nothing to do with responsible dog ownership.

    • S says:

      “There is absolutely NO reason to get a dog declawed or debarked (legitimate medical concerns excluded).”

      You prove yourself an idiot with this statement, so why should we care what you think about anything?

      The fact is that dog barking literally damages human health, and it needs to be controlled. The fact is that dogs do NOT need to bark for any reason in the vast majority of cases.

      Do you honestly believe that more than 1% of dog owners can and do train their dogs not to bark when they shouldn’t? If so, you’re even more of an idiot than you already appear to be.

      • Skye says:

        “The fact is that dogs do NOT need to bark for any reason in the vast majority of cases”. With this sentence, YOU prove YOURSELF an idiot, so why should we care what you think about anything.
        If anyone bothered to put in the time to teach their dog not to bark, or figure out the cause of excessive barking, then it is quite simple to teach a dog not to bark. Dogs use barking as one of their main forms of communication. No responsible dog owner would EVER debark their dog because debarking is detrimental to a dogs health. Not only does it rob them of one of their main forms of communication, it also makes it far easier for food and water to slip down into their trachea and choke them to death. The only reason you have stated to get a dog debarked, is human laziness, in the case of the owner or just overall human preference and superficial desire. Certainly nothing to do with the best interest of the dog in mind.
        The occasional bark, never hurt anyone. It’s when the barking becomes excessive and constant that it becomes harmful but, as I have stated, it is fairly easy to teach a dog not to bark, at least not excessively. You just have to be willing to put in the time and find the right technique for your dog which could vary depending on the cause.

        • S says:

          How thick are you? First of all, dog owners DON’T train their dogs properly. Why should we expect them to when they’ve proven time and again that they won’t?

          Second, when you shrug off barking as no big deal, you prove that you have NO compassion for your fellow human beings. Just because noise doesn’t bother you doesn’t mean it isn’t a problem for others. In fact the more intelligent one is, the more likely one is to be disturbed by noise.

          OF COURSE you wouldn’t understand that. You are far too stupid.

          • Skye says:

            Ah. Of course, now you have resorted to insults.
            “shrug off barking as no big deal” I did not “shrug it off like no big deal” I said; “when the barking becomes excessive and constant it becomes harmful”. Excessive barking is a big deal. The occasional bark is not.
            “Just because noise doesn’t bother you doesn’t mean it isn’t a problem for others.” I said no such thing. Noise does bother me. A lot. Which is why my dogs are trained not to bark. Do they bark? Occasionally. When they play chase with other dogs, when I give them the speak command, and sometimes in response to other dogs but this one really only occurs when out on a walk and is a generally nothing more than a soft low pitched wuff and they are never the ones to make the first sound. They never bark repeatedly in any of these situations. Just the odd bark here and there, and most of those are low and relatively quiet. The louder ones are short and few and far between. If they want my attention for whatever reason, like they need to go outside, they come up to me, rest their heads in my lap and stare at me, perhaps even let out a quiet whine until I let them out. But they do not bark to gain my attention. They are generally quiet dogs.

            As I said earlier, IF anyone bothered to put in the time to actually train their dogs’s then barking would not be a problem. No responsible dog owner would EVER debark their dog because they would have bothered to put in the time to actually train their dogs not to bark!

          • S says:

            LOL. You come here calling Mr. MAD’s list stupid, but can’t stand to have your own label thrown back at you.

            You are stupid, as you have demonstrated repeatedly.

          • Skye says:

            And there you go again. Tell me, exactly what part of any of my previous comments “demonstrate how stupid I am”?
            And I never called Mr MAD’s entire list stupid. In fact most of the list is perfectly reasonable and understandable from ANY viewpoint. I previously pointed out 13 points out of 116 that were either; stupid, stupidly excessive or as having absolutely no relation to responsible dog ownership. I excluded from my list any points to do with excessive cleanliness. To clarify, of those 116 points; 10 are related to excessive and unreasonable levels of cleanliness, 2 are beyond stupid, 6 are stupidly excessive and 8 have absolutely nothing to do with responsible dog ownership. That still leaves 90 decent, reasonable points out of 116 points. There are only 26 points in this list that are stupid in one way or another.
            Tell me, what EXACTLY is your argument with me and your reasoning that brought you to the conclusion that I am “stupid”? And how did exactly did you arrive at the conclusion that I “can’t stand to have my own label thrown back at me”, since apparently (according to you) I called Mr. MAD stupid?

          • S says:

            I already did, but you didn’t have the intelligence to comprehend.

            You say that dogs need to be able to bark, and they will suffer if they can’t. There is no basis for that comment. Wolves are able to bark, but they don’t. Dogs are basically mutated wolves that behave in antisocial ways that evolution does not select for. They do not need to bark.

            You dismiss the harm to society of barking.

            You deny the analogy to spaying and neutering, arguing that dog owners can train their dogs not to bark (while ignoring the fact that dog owners steadfastly refuse to do so), but ignore how extremely easy it is to prevent a dog from mating. It’s much easier than stopping them from barking. But you are fine with surgery to render a dog incapable of procreation, which is every living thing’s biological imperative, while acting like the ability to make juvenile noise is the meaning of life

            What an idiot you are! LOL

            Now, I’m through with your harassment. I think Mr. MAD should consider whether allowing you in this forum is actually contributing anything useful to our cause.

          • Skye says:

            First of all, the reason I asked what exactly your argument was, is because one should never assume too much lest one makes oneself look stupid like you just did.

            I said that barking is one of a dogs main forms of communication. They bark to alert you that something is wrong, like say; “I am extremely bored”, or “I am frustrated due to lack of mental and/or physical simulation”, or “I do not like this situation and am extremely stressed out”, or “Don’t come any closer or I will bite”, they bark to alert you to a stranger within their territory, they bark when they are scared, they bark when they are excited, they bark when they are playful and for each of these things they have a different, distinctive bark. Excessive barking is usually caused by stress or frustration because one or more of their needs are not being met. Oh and, by the way, wolves DO bark. As a warning, when they are defensive and when they are protesting. Their main form of communication however, aside from body language of course, is howling.

            Do you know what the larynx is? It is a fold of tissue just above the trachea. It is also commonly referred to as the voice box or the vocal cords. Do you know what its purpose is? The larynx allows for sound and the range of sound an animal is capable of making. It also closes over the trachea when an animal swallows therefore preventing food and water from slipping into the trachea. If you remove ANY of this tissue, no matter how little you remove, you are rendering the trachea ineffective in its second and most important purpose, forever leaving a gap where food and water can slip into the trachea giving leave to no end of trouble like pneumonia, choking, dificulty eating, drinking or even swallowing and or death. Scar tissue from the wound that is left can also grow too much until there is too much tissue in the throat, obstructing their ability to breathe. If this is not seen to the dog will suffocate and die. And yet you have the audacity to claim that debarking is not in any way, harmful to dogs.

            Are you seriously still insisting that I dismiss the harm barking can do to society? Seriously? I have QUITE CLEARLY stated that constant and/or excessive barking is harmful. I am NOT denying this fact. The OCCASIONAL bark, however, does no harm to anyone. And since you OBVIOUSLY have no idea what exactly “occasional” means, evidenced by the fact that you are STILL going on about my supposed dismissal of barking, here is a dictionary definition for you. Occasional; occurring, appearing, or done infrequently and irregularly. And just in case you also have no idea what “infrequently” means, Infrequently; infrequent, uncommon, scarce, rare, sporadic. Meaning not common or abundant. Infrequent implies occurrence at wide intervals in space or time.

            This list and these points are about responsible, note RESPONSIBLE dog owners. A dog owner that allows their dog to get to a place where it is constantly barking is NOT responsible. They are the ones who have noisy dog’s. THEY are the ones who resort to debarking as a solution to the problem of excessive barking for which they have never bothered to even try to figure out the reason behind. Contrary to your apparent belief, most if not all dog’s do not bark for the sake of barking. Most if not all dogs bark for a reason.

            While it is true that it is quite easy to prevent a dog from breeding as long as you can identify the signs of a bitch in heat, many dog owners are careless, which results in an accidental litter, often of bad breeding, which is to say that one or both dogs are the carrier of or have a hereditary disease. The pros and cons of getting a bitch done are about the same as long as age is taken into consideration. The pros of getting a male dog done, however are severely outweighed by the cons. If the intact dog has aggression issues directly relating to testosterone then he will need to be neutered. If the owner cannot deal with the dominance issues of leaving a male dog intact, the the dog will have to be neutered. If the dog is a carrier of or has a severe hereditary disease, they should be desexed to eliminate any possibility no matter how remote of their bad genes being carried on to the next generation. This is why, whether or not one gets their dog desexed is not black and white and depends on several variables as to whether or not it is beneficial to the animal or the species as a whole. Cats however are far more difficult to control, and all pet cats should be spayed and neutered to prevent them from contributing to overpopulation. I simply did not feel like elaborating on this topic in my previous comment. I did not feel that I needed to.

            I searched into the girls case once it was brought to my atention. According to the article I read, she ate something when she was 1 that had a parasite in it from “dog mess”. Question number 1. Why did the dog have parasites in the first place? It is likely that it was not wormed either at all, or on a regular basis. Question number 2. Why was the dog allowed to mess somewhere a small child could ingest something left behind from said mess? Poo of any kind carries parasites and diseases, normally species specific. This was an unfortunate accident that should never have been allowed to happen.

            Dog saliva is, generally, cleaner than a humans, despite what they tend to put in their mouths. As long as the dog does not have gum disease. Which no dog belonging to someone responsible will have. Or has another disease that effects its saliva. But, please, by all means, point me in the direction of a case or article that elaborates how and why these people have required amputations from nothing more or less than “dog saliva” so that I may see for myself the conditions of these instances and be sure that I have found and am reading exactly what you have found and read and are so concerned about. Cases where biting was involved, excluded of course. Any bite can get infected, especially if it’s deep. In cases like these, if not seen to in time, amputation may be required. But the same can be said for a bite from anything.

            I think that if anyone here is harassing anyone, it is you. Sure, I have called you an idiot. Once. But only because I was turning your own insult back onto you. You, however, throughout our entire conversation have constantly called me stupid and an idiot so, please, tell me again; whom exactly, is harassing whom? By the way, just to clarify so that there are no (further) misunderstandings (wilful or otherwise), I never once called Mr. MAD stupid. I do not think Mr. Mad is stupid. Perhaps a smidgen extreme, but not stupid. Simply that some of the items on their list are stupid.
            Also! I have brought up several good points and am using science to back my claims and opinions, which is more than what you have been doing.

          • MrMAD says:

            Forgot to say:

            You dog lovers – and your dogs – are absolutely Irrelevant to us.


            Irrelevant when you are in your property with your dogs fully contained inside there. All the noise, smells, diseases, bittings, maulings, maimings, killings… all that in your hermetically sealed house only.

            There you could be all (i)responsible as you wanted, “sleep” with your dogs, kiss them, lick their rear, drink their saliva, swin in their feces&urine several feet-high indoors heated swimming pool (great to grow more friendly pathogens), have dozens of mutts in a little den, breath a naturely fragranced indoor air, no muzzles, no declawing, no leashes, all the ‘beneficial’ germs, congregate and tell your dog loving friends how wonderful and perfect you all are… and you all would never leave the house anymore, obviously.

            Then, and only then, you are all IRRELEVANT to us.

            We wouldn’t ever talk about you or your dogs anymore. Not a single word. Ever.

            For your amusement, this web site would cease to exist as well!

            Isn’t that such a great idea?

            Just imagine!!!

          • MrMAD says:

            Thanks for facing this doggist, S. Excellent job.

            I allowed his comment just because it was so long (if I had to waste my bandwidth, I’d make a good use from it) and because I was just leaving to the country for the long weekend, so no time to commment then.

            Also, because I wanted to write about Harrassment by dog lovers when I returned.

            Harrassment, that is all they do, here on the internet with their insane comments, and in real life physically with their mutts. More on that on my reply to him/her.

            Legally: “Harassment refers to a broad number of behaviors that are subject to both criminal punishment and civil liability.”, or more informally:

            “Harassment definition, the act or an instance of harassing, or disturbing, pestering, or troubling repeatedly.”

            ODORs are masters in this art.

            This comment from you was perfect since it synthesizes what we all want:

            “I just want to go about my life not being bothered by people’s dogs, and not being told I’m evil if I don’t want dogs around me.”

            Thanks again for your comments.

            BTW, he’s banned already.

          • S says:

            Thank you. :D

            I can only imagine some of the insanity you see in the comments that never make it through. :(

          • S says:

            Not to mention acting like being a “germophobe” is silly and even unhealthy. Are you unaware that the silly harmless germs in dog poop caused a little girl to go blind in one eye? Are you aware that the silly harmless germs in dog saliva have caused multiple people to require amputations?

            You think it’s more important for lazy dog owners to refuse to properly clean up their pets’ messes than for humans to have fingers and noses and vision.

            You are not only stupid, you are dangerous.

    • MrMAD says:

      Here I go, first and last.

      I won’t counter-counter your points. I stand by each and every word I said. That IS what Responsibility means and we won’t change them just because you “think” that they aren’t necessary. They are.

      Our standards are noticeably higher than yours, dog lovers, and we won’t lower our way of life just because you people enjoy living in a such poor states. Ethics, cleanliness, responsibility… YOU must change, not us.

      If you don’t want to understand them, it’s narcissism (I won’t call you a career criminal this time), or, if you are unable to understand, it’s cognitive dysfunction.

      A 116 points? Thanks, I was the one who wrote it and I myself didn’t know it. But you somehow had the energy and time to count. And complain about them ON this site.

      I’m just going to comment on two points: germophobes and rudeness, two accusations from your part, the first an original one, I’ve never been called germophobe before.

      We are not rude or insulting persons, but by the very contrary just nice and polite people. Really.
      However, we, temporarily, at this point, are tottaly fed up with your behaviour of trying to shove your dogs and everything related under our throats. We do NOT accept that, and every time you try you will be dealt with accordingly, not with a “Yes, sir!”.
      We’ve been rude, now, and to you, because that is the only language you understand.

      Now I am a germophobe? Nice…
      Just because we want a minimally clean and safe way of life we are called germ freaks.
      You dog lovers are deluded that you are intelligent people but you do not even know what Germophobe means: “a person who has an abnormal fear of germs“.
      Two words: Abnormal and Fear.
      For Abnormal read this (a little kid got extremely sick because of… dogs)
      For Fear, I can tell you that I fish, I hunt, I do gardening handling cattle manure with my bare hands, sometimes green manure. These are no traits for Fear in any normal dictionary.

      All we want is to be left alone from you dog lovers (bullying by nature) and from your vermin, including ALL the by-products produced by your animals like noise, smells, attacks… and “germs” too.

      We do not go to your dog-loving web sites to post anything, we leave you there to spill your insanity all the way you want. On the other hand, you come to our sites trying to impose your point of view, eg bullying, similarly how you do in real life with your dogs, by pushing them on us by barking, defecating, taking them everywhere… We do Not accept that.

      Anyway, all we want (and we are strongly fighting for that) is to be left alone.

      To be left alone from you. And your dogs.


      From your other comments (that I just also skimmed):

      Two people already said you are “dangerous”.

      Well, I am the third.

      “Dog saliva is, generally, cleaner than a humans, despite what they tend to put in their mouths.”

      Please, Skie, do consult a psychiatrist, a very competent one (one who have no dogs for sure).

      This is a sincere advice, no offense at all, really.


  17. Bravo says:

    Dog saliva is, generally, cleaner than a humans, despite what they tend to put in their mouths.

    Man, you ARE dangerous. Even more than your pooches.

  18. Bravo says:

    On your comment about IRRELEVANT dog owners:

    They will never leave us alone, with no more harassment on their part.

    Harassment is an integral component in their narcissistic personality. They must have a dog AND have people harassed in the process. Skye above just proved that.

    Otherwise, no fun.

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